economy, depression 

Partly I think I’m having a depressive bout due to personal stuff like my relationship ending. But partly I’m bricking it because we’re staring down the barrel of a heist to steal our future and we’re individually at the mercy of the owning class.

They are coming for your savings, and for your debt, and for your buying power, and for your job security. All four. How do we individually defend against that? We can’t! But where is the class consciousness?

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Your savings will get eaten up, either by inflation or KiwiSaver shenanigans or by haircuts. Your earnings go bye bye as inflation is turned up, and employers are pulling every dirty trick to undermine labour, even though they killed enough people to create a labour shortage.

Your debt is in some ways safer than your assets, but not if the debt interest rates go up. You better be able to service it or say goodbye to the mortgage.

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And who have we got in our court? Some (not all) of the unions. A couple of politicians within broadly Liberal parties.

A socialist network largely dismantled and sidelined by a labour peace that is now dead. The next few years are going to HURT, and not hurt equally, which is the point.

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And this in the context of a global pandemic (and death cult response), climate extinction, energy crisis, and the deliberate turn towards fascism to protect Capital in case the Left get too powerful.

And meanwhile I’m trying to convince my Liberal friends to become Leftists before it’s too late, but they don’t want to “contribute to polarisation or radicalisation” when it’s “a complex and nuanced situation”. Fuuuuuuuuck

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And we don’t have the luxury of 20th Communism as a successful model to reach towards. To be a socialist of any flavour today is to believe in values like universalism and integrity that mean we don’t get to lie, cheat or take short cuts, but to not have a surviving model to work towards. We can’t be utopians, and we can’t rely on 20thC ideology and vision. We’re back to improvising with the few tools we know can’t be coopted.

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So materially it comes down to harm reduction and risk mitigation. But there’s just no fucking money for it, so its all scraps and personal virtue. How many refugees can you shelter? How much of your income can you put aside for ko-fi and patreon and give a little? It’s not enough, never enough.

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And every regular, neurotypical person I talk to is like "you are correct, but don't worry about it, like me." and it's like... but people are going to suffer and die, and "people" doesn't mean "other people far enough away to pretend it doesn't matter" here, it means all of us. It's not a hypothetical, Darren.

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We don't even have a fucking newspaper, that's how bad it is. In Aotearoa NZ, we've got the basically-liberal Spinoff, and they are as likely to run a soft piece about riding along with the fucking police helicopter as to call out the RW.

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@dznz Yes, things are grim 😬 I do sense a growing intolerance towards the super rich and the extremes of inequality though. And climate activism is gathering force. 🤔 I find choosing a life of voluntary simplicity has helped my mental health, but I acknowledge my privilege to be able to do this. All the best to you :birdheart:

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@simplicitarian I agree we're seeing some positive movement, though half the climate activism is run by liberals like XR who just endorsed an NFT project.

I'll be okay, just needed to rant.

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@dznz @simplicitarian I share your discontent. The hypocrisy and inherent cognitive dissonance we all accommodate is staggering. And some of us have done a lot of work to be true to our values. In the end, all we can do is provide an example of the behaviour we want to see. And rant a bit, given the opportunity.

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@lightweight @dznz Yes! Modelling a different way of living might make us eccentric, but it definitely challenges people to reflect on their own lives 🤔

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@simplicitarian I struggle with all these same issues. I had a lot of hope early in the pandemic when people were coming together and reassessing what is important in life. Unfortunately that quickly turned into "getting back to normal".

I do see some hope in people working together and creating community around environmental and social issues.

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@alpinefolk so many missed opportunities to be sure. I also feel it's tragic that we showed a tantalising glimpse of a 'better us' and then we fell right back into our bad old ways @simplicitarian

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@alpinefolk @lightweight Snap, just made a similar reply 😆 Agree 100% and I often think longingly of that time when private transport almost disappeared.

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@simplicitarian having lived through #eqnz here in Christchurch, too, I was heartbroken by the missed opportunities to build our city back better than it was. The lack of vision was staggering, along with the dogmatic (ignorant) 'conservatism' and general lack of grace of the local land-owners/power brokers (who have substantial influence in our city council and exerted it on the Cant'y EQ Recovery Authority, too). @alpinefolk

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@simplicitarian seems that, like Gibson's "future" an informed, empathetic, Common Good-focused world view is already here... it's just very poorly distributed. It's largely absent from those with clout in society. @alpinefolk

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@lightweight @alpinefolk Yep, those who are progressive and community-minded attract huge resistance if they get into powerful positions. Our Ōtepoti mayor is a very good person but some of the business lobby treat him like evil incarnate. The fact he got elected gives me hope though.

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@lightweight @alpinefolk I’ve been thinking it’s very quiet here recently, so big thanks to @dznz whose rant has led us into this monster thread 😆

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@simplicitarian there’s nothing like a passionate rant to get the discussion flowing 😂 @lightweight @dznz

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@simplicitarian @lightweight @alpinefolk @dznz It’s not just the obvious targets of people of power and property who resist change. The way we flipped back to ‘normal’ early in the pandemic showed how much inertia there is right across the system with ordinary people. Every progressive change is hard fought!

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@pkboi
the other force we need to discredit is the 'temporarily embarrassed' vote - the folks who vote for policies that they aspire to be affected by, e.g. tax breaks for the rich. A lot of poor folks buy into the prosperity gospel and related mythology. But they vote accordingly. We need to show people how daft that is. And how counter productive. @simplicitarian @alpinefolk @dznz

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@lightweight @simplicitarian @alpinefolk @dznz True. Plenty of people aspire to a state they are unlikely to achieve unless they win Lotto. I suspect many are also afraid of being losers in another system and vote to protect what they have, rather than take a risk on what might be.

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@pkboi @lightweight @simplicitarian @alpinefolk you’re on the money, I think, because there IS so much to lose and no guarantee that the disruption and loss that change brings will be worth it.

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@pkboi @lightweight @alpinefolk @dznz Yes. This is why visible small community and individual examples can be good in demonstrating positive alternatives. I’m thinking of things like community gardens, repair workshops, the neighbour who walks/bikes everywhere etc. I suspect it’s also why there’s so much irrational opposition to cycling infrastructure 🤷🏻‍♀️

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