@Kay I was wondering how quickly they got around to drawing up new terms of service as usually these things take quite some time. Apparently moving fast is part of the plan.
@Kay Regarding rules on offensive content, I don't know if that's entirely accurate or, if it is, maybe I'm not seeing it? The updated TOS points to the same list of items that can be reported, such as harassment, abuse, etc.
@kraaico @juliasnz @Kay Yeah, that's what it was. I liked it. You could pick places in the world to drop in to and see what people were streaming about. Unfortunately, there would be a lot of guys - AFAICT, mostly from southwest Asia - who would just keep writing "open" on streams being done by women.
@Kay The no rules against offensive content is concerning, but the royalty free licence thing has always been the cause because else they wouldn't have the rights to post a tweet, spread it across people's timelines, crop it for thumbnails, etc! This line is often misunderstood.
@Kay they didn't remove or ban for posting offensive content for quite a long time. At least now they won't pretend.
I found this interesting but am unsure it's new (difficult to find what is but guess that's intentional)
@pilcrow it may be mostly the same as before. I read Birdsite TOS years ago when I signed up and some posters have said Its just the same/ Mostly the same. Maybe - but is it something you or I are comfortable about?
Excerpt from Twitter TOS from Dec. 2021 @ http://web.archive.org/web/20211227190443/https://mobile.twitter.com/en/tos
"By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through the Services, you grant us a [...] non-exclusive license to use, copy, reproduce, process, [...] and distribute such Content in any and all media or distribution methods now known or later developed"
This is so they can display the content to other users and transcode media
@Kay Earlier it reads "You retain the rights to your Content".
Even earlier it reads
"You understand that by using the Services, you may be exposed to Content that might be offensive, harmful, inaccurate or otherwise inappropriate, or in some cases, postings that have been mislabeled or are otherwise deceptive. All Content is the sole responsibility of the person who originated such Content."
This is all old news. Shoulda read it earlier ;)
Earlier we had Community Standards @Firepal3D and yes, the re-use provisions aren't new butthey're more blatant, and with stronger signalling of potential use and commercial gain by others. Ownership of original content hasn't translated to guarantee of return for profits from eg sales of NFTs using copied images
@Kay I've flipped between the Section 3 of the old and new Terms, and they are identical, not "more blatant". Also I'm not too sure where Adblock banning and NFTs fit into this
@Firepal3D even if the new terms mainly replicate the old terms, that doesn't make me happy about potential misuse, especially with announcements by Muck about "free speech" and apparent reduction in Community Standards. If my (probably) technically incorrect statement gets people to read the Terms, good. People should always read for themselves.
@Kay Joke's on them. I wrote a TamperMonkey script to hide all their "promoted content". Anyway, once Twitler is back on the service, I'm off and will just be here. But staying until then for the friends who haven't yet made the move. If they somehow block me because I use blockers, well, that just makes my final day come sooner.
@Kay That said, they need to be able to publish and distribute your content, otherwise they wouldn't have permission to display your twits to other users. I think that's pretty standard for social networks. Not liking ad blockers also seems pretty standard, it's how they make their money, since most people don't pay to use it. I _do_, since I am a Twitter Blue subscriber, but that was just so I could do an experiment with using an NFT as my avatar. Obvs I'll unsub before I leave, but they don't care about me, they have Musk's billions and all they will care about after that is eyeballs to read the latest unhinged ramblings from Señor Cheato.
@Kay I'm convinced they've been trying to attach me to a phone, even before the new TOS were announced... numerous times I'd be flagged as a bot, but given the option to prove I wasn't by entering a code sent to a mobile number. Every single time I told them I did not have one, find a better way to deal with this so called "bot" issue. I was also briefly cut off trying to send a DM to the main CPUSA acct. All very sus IMO
@Kay@mastodon.nz 😆😆😆😆😆 so it's only a matter of time than before i get banned i guess.
i wonder which one will happen first, i leave or i get banned.
Banning is unlikely as any post gaining a reaction can be monetized or turned into clickbait. Why ban what you can exploit. OTOH Musk is happy blocking people so that may happen too @logan
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